German Pointer Vs. English Setter: What’s The Difference?

German Pointers and English Setters are both high-energy sporting dogs, perfectly suited for active owners, including practicing hunters. The German Shorthaired Pointed, German Longhaired Pointer, German Wirehaired Pointer, and English Setter are all bird dogs. However, there are distinct differences between a pointer and a setter and between these German Pointer breeds and English Setters specifically.

English Setters have longer, more feathered coats than German Pointers. Setters are friendlier overall than Pointers but less protective. They are more prone to barking than Pointers. Setters require less exercise than Pointers. Setters are better in families, while Pointers are one-person dogs.

The details provided herein accord with the breed standards and most commonly seen characteristics and behaviors. However, when you are selecting your dog, you need to take into account individual differences. Temperament, for example, is influenced by personality, age, quality of breeding, socialization, training, history, living environment, etc.


German LONGHAIRED Pointer Vs. English Setter

Classification, Lifespan, And Appearance

 GERMAN LONGHAIRED POINTERENGLISH SETTER
AKC ClassificationFoundation Stock ServiceSporting Group
Alternative ClassificationBird Dog – PointerBird dog – Setter
Lifespan12-14 years12 years
Height22-28 inches23-27 inches
Weight55-80 lbs45-80 lbs
Coat LengthMedium to longMedium to long
Coat CharacteristicsSleek with undercoatFlat and silky; no undercoat
FeatheringModerate; on ears, back of all legs, and tailLong; on ears, chest, stomach, legs, and tail
Hypoallergenic CoatNoNo
EarsHang down; medium to long; featheredHang down; set low on head; medium to long; well-feathered

Summary:

To see these two dogs next to each other, you will clearly see a difference in appearance. However, on paper, the biggest difference is the extent and length of feathering. English Setters are much more heavily feathered than the German Longhaired Pointer.

As a setter, English Setters are bred to find hunting game and then lie down when a likely specimen has been found. This method goes back to when hunters used to work with nets. A crouched English Setter will not interfere with the net, minimizing the chance of the game escaping. On the other hand, pointers are trained to find game and then assume an upright point position, indicating to the hunter where the game is.

Grooming Requirements

 GERMAN LONGHAIRED POINTERENGLISH SETTER
Maintenance IntensityModerateModerate to high
BrushingWeekly2-3 times a week
BathingOccasionalEvery 4-6 weeks
SheddingInfrequentRegular
EarsChecked daily; cleaned weekly; brushed 2-3 time a weekChecked daily; cleaned weekly; brushed 2-3 time a week

Summary:

English Setters require more grooming and shed more than German Longhaired Pointers.

Temperament

 GERMAN LONGHAIRED POINTERENGLISH SETTER
General Temperament (AKC)Versatile; calm; family-orientedFriendly; mellow; merry
Affectionate (to family)Yes; often prefers one personVery
IndependenceLowLow
IntensityModerateLow to moderate
SensitivityModerateHigh
StubbornUnlikelyPossible
Aggression LevelLowLow
TimidUnlikelyNo
Energy LevelHighModerate to high
Attention RequirementsHighHigh
One-Person DogLikelyPossible
General FriendlinessHighHigh
Child FriendlinessHighHigh
Stranger FriendlinessFriendlyFriendly
Dog FriendlinessModerate to highHigh
Cat FriendlinessLowModerate (if socialized with cats)
ProtectivenessLow to moderateLow
Prey DriveHighHigh
Barking PotentialModerateHigh

Summary:

English Setters are less intense and have slightly lower energy levels than German Longhaired Pointers.

English Setters are also better with children, dogs, cats, and strangers than the German Longhaired Pointer, but it does make them less protective.

German Longhaired Pointers are less sensitive and prone to nuisance barking than the English Setter.

Exercise And Training Requirements

 GERMAN LONGHAIRED POINTERENGLISH SETTER
SocializationRequiredRequired
Intelligence LevelHighHigh
EnduranceHighHigh
Eager to PleaseHighHigh
Exercise NeedsHighHigh
Exercise Frequency2-3 times a dayOnce a day
Exercise Duration30-60 minutes per session60 minutes
Exercise IntensityModerate to highModerate to high
Owner RequirementsActiveActive
Exercise CompanionGoodGood
Training MethodsPositive preferredPositive; harsh training will make a Setter stubborn
Mandatory TrainingObedienceObedience
Canine Sport TrainingEligibleEligible
Affinity for WaterHighHigh

Summary:

English Setters require less exercise a day than German Longhaired Pointers (but they still need a lot of exercise).

Adaptability And Living Environment

 GERMAN LONGHAIRED POINTERENGLISH SETTER
Good for First-Time OwnersPossiblyPossibly
Good for Single-Person HomesYesPossibly
Good for Multi-Person HomesYesVery
Alone TimeIntolerantIntolerant
Indoor LivingShould be allowed indoors with family; not suitable for apartment livingShould be allowed indoors with family; not suitable for apartment living
Outdoor RequirementsShould have access to a secure yard; should be taken outside each dayShould have access to a secure yard; should be taken outside each day
Toleration of Cold WeatherModerateModerate to high
Toleration of Hot WeatherLow to moderateModerate

Summary:

English Setters thrive in a family while German Longhaired Pointers are likely to be one-person dogs, requiring only the company of that person to be happy.


German SHORTHAIRED Pointer Vs. English Setter

Classification, Lifespan, And Appearance

 GERMAN SHORTHAIRED POINTERENGLISH SETTER
AKC ClassificationSporting GroupSporting Group
Alternative ClassificationBird Dog – PointerBird dog – Setter
Lifespan10-12 years12 years
Height21-25 inches23-27 inches
Weight45-70 lbs45-80 lbs
Coat LengthVery shortMedium to long
Coat CharacteristicsThick and coarse on body; thinner and softer on head and earsFlat and silky; no undercoat
FeatheringNoneLong; on ears, chest, stomach, legs, and tail
Hypoallergenic CoatNoNo
EarsHang down; medium to long; un-featheredHang down; set low on head; medium to long; well-feathered

Summary:

English Setters are setter bird dogs, and German Shorthaired Pointers are pointer bird dogs. Setters and pointers are trained differently in the hunting field.

On paper, these two dogs differ more than the German Longhaired Pointer and the English Setter. The English Setter has a longer coat and significantly more feathering than the German Shorthaired Pointer.

Grooming Requirements

 GERMAN SHORTHAIRED POINTERENGLISH SETTER
Maintenance IntensityModerateModerate to high
BrushingOccasional2-3 times a week
BathingOccasionalEvery 4-6 weeks
SheddingRegularRegular
EarsChecked and cleaned weeklyChecked daily; cleaned weekly; brushed 2-3 time a week

Summary:

English Setters require more grooming overall than German Shorthaired Pointers, even though they shed with equal regularity.

Temperament

 GERMAN SHORTHAIRED POINTERENGLISH SETTER
General Temperament (AKC)Friendly; smart; willing to pleaseFriendly; mellow; merry
Affectionate (to family)Yes; often prefers one personVery
IndependenceModerateLow
IntensityModerate to highLow to moderate
SensitivityModerate to highHigh
StubbornPossiblePossible
Aggression LevelLowLow
TimidNoNo
Energy LevelHighModerate to high
Attention RequirementsHighHigh
One-Person DogLikelyPossible
General FriendlinessModerateHigh
Child FriendlinessModerate to high; better with older childrenHigh
Stranger FriendlinessReserved to friendlyFriendly
Dog FriendlinessLowHigh
Cat FriendlinessLowModerate (if socialized with cats)
ProtectivenessModerate to highLow
Prey DriveHighHigh
Barking PotentialModerateHigh

Summary:

English Setters are less independent and intense than the German Shorthaired Pointer.

English Setters are more friendly than the German Shorthaired Pointers overall, but this is specifically seen in their interactions with strangers, children, and other dogs. However, it does mean that German Shorthaired Pointers are more protective.

English Setters have slightly lower energy levels than German Shorthaired Pointers, especially as they grow older, but they are more prone to nuisance barking.

Exercise And Training Requirements

 GERMAN SHORTHAIRED POINTERENGLISH SETTER
SocializationRequiredRequired
Intelligence LevelHighHigh
EnduranceHighHigh
Eager to PleaseHighHigh
Exercise NeedsHighHigh
Exercise Frequency2-3 times a dayOnce a day
Exercise Duration30-60 minutes per session60 minutes
Exercise IntensityModerate to highModerate to high
Owner RequirementsActiveActive
Exercise CompanionExcellentGood
Training MethodsPositive yields best results; shorter duration is betterPositive; harsh training will make a Setter stubborn
Mandatory TrainingObedienceObedience
Canine Sport TrainingEncouragedEligible
Affinity for WaterModerate to highHigh

Summary:

English Setters require less exercise a day than German Shorthaired Pointers (but they still need a lot of exercise). German Shorthaired Pointers are better exercise companions.

Adaptability And Living Environment

 GERMAN SHORTHAIRED POINTERENGLISH SETTER
Good for First-Time OwnersNoPossibly
Good for Single-Person HomesYes (if person can meet their exercise requirements)Possibly
Good for Multi-Person HomesYesVery
Alone TimeIntolerantIntolerant
Indoor LivingShould be allowed indoors with family; not suitable for apartment livingShould be allowed indoors with family; not suitable for apartment living
Outdoor RequirementsShould have access to a secure yard; should be taken outside each dayShould have access to a secure yard; should be taken outside each day
Toleration of Cold WeatherLowModerate to high
Toleration of Hot WeatherModerate to highModerate

Summary:

German Shorthaired Pointers are not appropriate for novice owners. An English Setter can be a good first dog, but only for a specific type of owner who is aware of their requirements and willing to provide for them.

English Setters thrive in a family, while German Shorthaired Pointers are likely to be one-person dogs, requiring only the company of that person to be happy.

With their long coats, English Setters are much more tolerant of cold weather than the very short-coated German Shorthaired Pointer.


German WIREHAIRED Pointer Vs. English Setter

Classification, Lifespan, And Appearance

 GERMAN WIREHAIRED POINTERENGLISH SETTER
AKC ClassificationSporting GroupSporting Group
Alternative ClassificationBird Dog – PointerBird dog – Setter
Lifespan14-16 years12 years
Height22-26 inches23-27 inches
Weight50-70 lbs45-80 lbs
Coat LengthShort (longer on belly)Medium to long
Coat CharacteristicsStraight, harsh, and wiry;  undercoat is dense in winter and thin in summerFlat and silky; no undercoat
FeatheringLittle to noneLong; on ears, chest, stomach, legs, and tail
Hypoallergenic CoatNoNo
EarsHang down; short to medium; un-featheredHang down; set low on head; medium to long; well-feathered

Summary:

English Setters are setter bird dogs, and German Wirehaired Pointers are pointer bird dogs. Setters and pointers are trained differently in the hunting field.

On paper, these two dogs differ more than the German Longhaired Pointer and the English Setter. The English Setter has a longer coat and significantly more feathering than the German Wirehaired Pointer. Additionally, the English Setter’s coat is never wiry.

Grooming Requirements

 GERMAN WIREHAIRED POINTERENGLISH SETTER
Maintenance IntensityLowModerate to high
BrushingWeekly2-3 times a week
BathingOccasionalEvery 4-6 weeks
SheddingRegularRegular
EarsChecked and cleaned weeklyChecked daily; cleaned weekly; brushed 2-3 time a week

Summary:

English Setters require more grooming overall than German Wirehaired Pointers to keep their coats from tangling, but they shed just as regularly as the Pointers. The lack of feathers also makes ear maintenance less intense for German Wirehaired Pointers.  

Temperament

 GERMAN WIREHAIRED POINTERENGLISH SETTER
General Temperament (AKC)Affectionate; eager; enthusiasticFriendly; mellow; merry
Affectionate (to family)Yes; often prefers one personVery
IndependenceModerateLow
IntensityModerate to highLow to moderate
SensitivityModerate to highHigh
StubbornPossiblePossible
Aggression LevelModerate (dog aggression)Low
TimidNoUnlikely
Energy LevelHighModerate to high
Attention RequirementsHighHigh
One-Person DogLikelyPossible
General FriendlinessHighHigh
Child FriendlinessHigh (can be too boisterous)High
Stranger FriendlinessReservedFriendly
Dog FriendlinessLowHigh
Cat FriendlinessLowModerate (if socialized with cats)
ProtectivenessHighLow
Prey DriveHighHigh
Barking PotentialModerateHigh

Summary:

English Setters are less independent, intense, and aggressive than the German Wirehaired Pointer.

English Setters are more friendly with strangers and other dogs than the German Shorthaired Pointers. In fact, German Wirehaired Pointers are known to display aggression towards other dogs. Their friendliness does, however, make the English Setter much less protective than the Wirehaired Pointer.

Both breeds do well with children, but the higher energy levels of the German Shorthaired Pointer can sometimes prove too much for small children.

English Setters have slightly lower energy levels than German Wirehaired Pointers, especially as they grow older, but they are more prone to nuisance barking.

Exercise And Training Requirements

 GERMAN WIREHAIRED POINTERENGLISH SETTER
SocializationRequiredRequired
Intelligence LevelHighHigh
EnduranceHighHigh
Eager to PleaseHighHigh
Exercise NeedsHighHigh
Exercise Frequency2-3 times a dayOnce a day
Exercise Duration30-60 minutes per session60 minutes
Exercise IntensityHighModerate to high
Owner RequirementsActiveActive
Exercise CompanionExcellentGood
Training MethodsPositive preferredPositive; harsh training will make a Setter stubborn
Mandatory TrainingObedienceObedience
Canine Sport TrainingEncouragedEligible
Affinity for WaterHighHigh

Summary:

English Setters require less exercise a day than German Wirehaired Pointers (but they still need a lot of exercise). German Wirehaired Pointers are better exercise companions.

Adaptability And Living Environment

 GERMAN WIREHAIRED POINTERENGLISH SETTER
Good for First-Time OwnersNoPossibly
Good for Single-Person HomesYesPossibly
Good for Multi-Person HomesYesVery
Alone TimeIntolerant of extended periods of isolationIntolerant
Indoor LivingShould be allowed indoors with family; not suitable for apartment livingShould be allowed indoors with family; not suitable for apartment living
Outdoor RequirementsShould have access to a secure yard; should be taken outside each dayShould have access to a secure yard; should be taken outside each day
Toleration of Cold WeatherModerate to highModerate to high
Toleration of Hot WeatherModerate to highModerate

Summary:

German Wirehaired Pointers are not appropriate for novice owners. An English Setter can be a good first dog, but only for a specific type of owner who is aware of their requirements and willing to provide for them.

English Setters thrive in a family, while German Wirehaired Pointers are likely to be one-person dogs, requiring only the company of that person to be happy.


Conclusion

English Setters and German Pointers (Longhaired, Shorthaired, and Wirehaired) have a lot in common. Still, overall the English Setters are slightly less high maintenance than any of the German Pointer breeds. However, you cannot assume that this makes an English Setter an easy dog to own. They still require daily and substantial exercise and lots of attention.

English Setters are also much friendlier than German Pointers in terms of children, other dogs, strangers, and even cats (when socialized as puppies). However, this does make English Setters ineffective guard dogs.


References

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https://www.akc.org/dog-breeds/german-longhaired-pointer/

https://www.akc.org/dog-breeds/german-shorthaired-pointer/

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